Game of Thrones Author George R.R. Martin Calls Out The Internet?


toxic fans where have we heard that
before hmm what’s up everybody today I wanted to talk about the genius george
RR martin and there’s a lot of articles being published that says that he is
actually slamming the fans for hating on season eight and i’m gonna tell you
right off the bat that these are clickbait articles if you really read
what they’re saying and you actually listen to the podcast where he was
talking about the internet toxicity I believe that he was t talking
in general addressing how it can be a toxic place which is true
I mean we’re and he even talks about how people can hide themselves behind an
avatar you don’t even have to put your real name out there and you can just
create a fake account than just you know bash on someone’s work which is true and
also the way that people are dressed criticism that most of the time if you
have a problem with the film instead of addressing those problems you are
actually going beyond to call people names and say I hope you die and all
these things that there’s not the way that you address criticism but obviously
people get mad but the problem with toxic fans toxic fandoms the term itself
the only problem I have with it is that a lot of the time the term toxic fans
are used to dismissed valid criticism and most of the time this is done by the
media itself not long ago we saw that happening with Star Wars after the last
Jedi and after a big chunk of the fans were complaining about it they did not
like it they were voicing their opinions they were framed as toxic fans because
we didn’t agree with the way they treated Luke because they didn’t agree
with Leia flying in space and that was you know not only it toxic fans among
other names that the fans were called so that’s my problem with disturbed toxic
fans however when it comes to George over here like I said these articles are
only clickbait articles is not what he was talking about I
believe that yes maybe he had the backlash on his mind but even George
himself have not publicly shared his thoughts on the finale I mean if you go
and watch his Twitter account which I was what that I was checking the other
day he never posted anything about the finale he never shared anything in fact
he posted something about your note bill and said oh they deserve Emmys and
awards the acting was amazing but nothing about the finale of season 8 I
think the only thing he made was on his blog where he said he’s thankful to the
showrunners and I can’t believe that it’s over but it’s actually not over
because the books are still coming and it was also kind of addressed some
questions when people are saying is it gonna end the same way he said yes and
no and yes and no so which means some of the things will be the same but a lot of
it will not because if you read the books you will know a lot of the stuff
that are in the books did not happen in the show some characters that are alive
in the books died in the show and vice versa and all of that so definitely it’s
not going to be the same it’s definitely going to have way more complexity to the
characters and and we are going to understand their decisions because I
think the biggest gripes that all of the fans had is because not people don’t
understand the ending because it doesn’t make sense the characters are doing
things that doesn’t make any sense because it was rushed that’s why there
was a plot point and they wanted to get there but they forgot about the process
and that’s why George takes so long to write because I mean he has an idea
where he wants to get but he lets these characters take on life of the of
themselves and sometimes things that he planned changes because it’s just not
going that way that’s how he writes and that’s why he takes so long for writing
obviously you can’t do that in television because you have a deadline
but at the same time like I said if D&D really wanted to end the show in a
satisfying way they should not just gone directly to the plot and they should
have stuck with the characters and their arc because there was no time to turn
them the way that they became at the very end it was just completely a show
that was called a show a fantasy show for people that don’t
like fantasy became completely illogical and unbelievable at the end because if
you really think about it it’s just the decisions were not logical these
characters were not logical he really felt wrong but like I said all these
articles over here clickbait articles again with the toxic fans that’s not
what he was talking about if you listen to the podcast what he said he was even
making a comparison of before you know and now how before people would have to
write a letter and put their names but nowadays you can hide behind an avatar
and I’m pretty sure that you if he might have had season 8 in mind in the way
that people reacted with the whole petition and everything 1.6 million
people signed a petition but he did not address season 8 he didn’t even say
season 8 or the finale he never said anything like that in the podcast you
can listen to yourself and you will see even this article that is claiming all
toxic fans he slammed the toxic fans says that marketing has yet to share his
thoughts on the final thrones episode so you know these are click baits this is
not true this is not he was not bashing the fans the hater season 8 he that’s
not what he was doing there was another article deadline this one is a little
bit more faithful to what the podcast was talking about this its title george
RR martin says internet fan culture has aspired into madness which is true
because sometimes a discussion get really heated and yet it can turn into
madness especially when it becomes when it’s the pop-culture show like Game of
Thrones and this art cover here let me just read what he said he said
the Internet is toxic in a way that the old fansite culture and fandoms comic
fans science fiction fans in those days was not so you can totally see he was
comparing old days to nowadays and it’s taken completely out of context for
clickbait so people can see oh my god he’s bashing defense which is not true
that’s not what is going on here you know and then he continued there were
disagreements they were fields but thing like the matter Batman knows that
you see on the internet he continues so this is the internet he’s talking about
in general because if you’re really a fan of marching and we’ve been seeing if
you watch any of his interviews he said that he didn’t want the show to end you
know he said he needed you know he had enough material for 10 at least 12
seasons why is it ending I don’t know it’s Dave
and Dan when they come through we could have gone to 11 12 13 seasons but they I
guess they wanted a life so obviously and he’s not really writing he was not
really involved with the writing process perhaps they gave them like I said the
plot points but this was all on that D&D you know it’s David and Dan’s fault it
was not George it was me his fault is the fact that he didn’t finish the books
on time but anyways I just wanted to talk about this because I believe this
is very interesting again with the whole toxic fans which is not what’s going on
over here he was not addressing the backlash her say he was talking about
the behavior and the internet how vocal the online hatred can be which is
absolutely true and not only true it could be so fast like this I believe by
episode after the end of episode 4 where Danny went bananas it was a like almost
1 million signatures and that petition of people just going I mean what the
hell is going on is she mentally ill now is that bad genes is that what is going
on here like I said a character they used to be have so many complexity
becomes one dimensional they dress her in black your evil now she’s even now
you have to believe she’s evil now they’re the the rationale behind the
actions never mind that and that’s the biggest problem with the
show in season 8 and not only Danny every single character Jaime
Brienne Tyrion John and the list goes on Cersei what they did Cersei just stays
in the window so staring at the window she has no you know plan underneath her
sleeve which I thought she would have liked it’s all these things that made
people get really upset season eight but again I’m very curious
to see what Martin has to say about the ending you know because he understands
storytelling you know he understand many many times the stuff that we have seen
him talk about in interviews happened on his own show for instance he always
talked about hating plot armours like when he’s watching a movie and he sees
the hero going in this crazy fight and nothing happened to him this is exactly
what happened on Episode three all these characters surrounding by dead people
and nobody dies I mean plot armor it was a show that was based in reality that
became completely unbelievable for plot reasons you know but anyways guys drop
your comments below let me know what you think about this we have to be very
careful these articles you know they could be very misleading because that’s
not exactly what happened I don’t believe that he was bashing the fans he
was just talking about behavior and the internet in general he even made a
comparison to before and now and but that’s it let me know what do you think
on the comments down below and if you enjoyed this video don’t forget to hit
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16 thoughts on “Game of Thrones Author George R.R. Martin Calls Out The Internet?

  1. Indiewire article: https://www.indiewire.com/2019/06/george-r-r-martin-internet-toxic-game-of-thrones-outrage-1202154382/

  2. What sucked wasn’t what happened, actually a lot of what happened great ideas but what sucked it how it was executed and built up to

  3. The show was a fucking fanfiction since S2. I love that everyone pretends to have read the books but no one says the facts.

  4. I don't watch TV, and the books sound far too harrowing for my tastes, but I've been following developments from a distance, through alternate media, and thought the show sounded pretty damn good.
    Around season 6 I became aware that fans were dissing D&D, but I couldn't see the problem – it still looked awesome from a distance.
    Around season 7 it still looked cool, but something seemed to be missing, arc-wise.

    I ignored season 8 until it was over, then spoilered myself up on it. At that point it became painfully obvious to me what fans were complaining about. The rushed and forced plot points, the aborted arcs, the lame payoffs, and plain bad storytelling were painfully obvious.

    I didn't have 8 years invested in this. I didn't have precious books to compare against. I wasn't part of a vocal community. I didn't have a preferred ending in mind. And I actively wanted this cultural phenomenon that I've appreciated from a distance to go out on a high. It didn't, and I am sad.

    And that's not a problem with fans.

  5. Grrm and D&D knew the end of the story even before finishing the book, it’s far easier for them to take the ending easily compared to fans who followed his work for years. The end just felt bitter and not bitter sweet. A bitter sweet ending is one where dany dies as a hero and not a villain and Jon survives.

  6. I loved the ending because it was expected but was done so different that I literally didn't see the direct signs, I LOVED IT. I didn't watch every episode in the past but I caught up to understand what has happened to the characters and the plots. I thought it was beautifully done, but god I can see why he talks about the fans being toxic😂😂you guys are insane.

  7. GRRM collects and charges a lot of money from HBO to give his opinion, I think he doesn't like that end, so rushed. Greetings Viv

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