What is a Gamer? | Game/Show | PBS Digital Studios

What does the
word gamer really ? Mean That’s a really
good question. [MUSIC PLAYING] The other day I received an
amazing message from a YouTuber named SplEagles– or
“spleagles,” if you will. After researching the
Entertainment Software Association’s
statistics on gamers, he was a little bit confused
about what a gamer actually is. Is a gamer a person who plays
any type of game or someone who plays an extensive
number of hours? Or is it someone spends
most of their time playing online games? All these are really,
really good questions. So when in doubt, let’s turn
to our trusty “Oxford English Dictionary.” A gamer is a person
plays a game or games, typically a participant in a
computer or role-playing game. Hold on. It should end just after
that first part, right? A person who plays
a game or games. But it doesn’t. The official definition
says that you’re only a gamer if you play
certain types of games. Shouldn’t people who play all
types of games be gamers too? As it turns out, the
very idea of gamers results in some weird
classifications– casual gamers, hardcore gamers,
true gamers, all of which become very problematic
very, very quickly. When Aisha Tyler hosted
Ubisoft’s E3 press conference, some people got downright
nasty because they felt like she wasn’t a gamer. She fired back on Facebook. I’ve been a gamer since I double
wielded in “Time Crises 3” at Fuddruckers. First of all, Fuddruckers. Second, that’s dedication,
also kind of expensive. We’ll link to it
in the description because it’s awesome. Here’s someone who clearly
loves video games who’s being told that she’s not a
gamer because she doesn’t fit the part, whatever that means. Instead of being inclusive
or even just descriptive, the term gamer has become
exclusionary and hostile. It’s gotten so bad
that Nintendo launched an I’m not a gamer
campaign, which is weird, because they’re a
video game company. [MUSIC PLAYING] This made me wonder. Why do gamers care so
much about this word? You’re probably thinking
that being a real gamer is about a sense
of accomplishment. All those hours spent
are a mark of honor. Only nongamers play
“Halo” on Easy. Real gamers, you might
say, spend hours and hours playing on Legendary. To be clear, I defended
the values of hard games, versus easy ones, a
couple episodes back. But I never said that playing
games doesn’t make you a gamer. But for most of you, a more
likely and bigger reason that we cling to the word
gamer is a sense of community. You want to
associate with others who bask in the blue
lighting of “Force of Five” and want to read all
those books on the shelves in “Skyroom,” room and talk
about on Reddit, of course. This is what social
psychologist Henry Tajfel would call forming a
self identity, the part of an individual’s
self concept that comes from their social group. But the problem is
gamer communities are defined about a
relatively small swath of high-budget games
with stunning graphics, deep lore, and
hulking characters. So it’s become more about
keeping people out of the gamer club and enforcing
a must-play canon, rather than fostering a
diversity of people and gaming experiences. And to top it off, there
isn’t even consensus about which games
we’re talking about. So people use the word
gamer however they want, which is pretty much useless. As we’ve seen with Aisha
Tyler, the term gamer has become a weapon to
exclude people who don’t fit a particular demographic. Some gamers suffer
from what psychologists call confirmation bias. That’s a tendency to
favor information that confirms your preconceptions. For example, if you rarely see
girls playing “Call of Duty,” then you might think
that no females play games, because they
don’t cross your gamer radar. It’s patently
false, but our views are often shaped by our
limited experiences. And it results in
an us versus them thing, perpetuating
ugly stereotypes, like people like who play indy
or mobile games aren’t gamers, because they’re too easy. Or worse, in Aisha
Tyler’s case, if you’re a black woman in
your early 40s, you couldn’t possibly be a gamer. So maybe we should just get
rid of the word gamer for good. As game designer
Raph Koster has said, the worst possible
fate for games would be for them
to become niche. I shouldn’t have to say this,
but games are for everybody. We don’t have endless
debates about who is a music-er or movie-er Those
are just things everybody does. And that’s quickly becoming
true for games, too, except for my dad, who I crushed
78 to nothing in “Madden” when I was 12. [CLICK] DAD: What?! He never really
recovered from that. DAD: (HIGH-PITCHED VOICE) What?! What?! I’m sorry, Dad. As it stands right now,
having a label like gamer turns people away. It creates the
illusion that a gamer is just one type of person, when
really, the gaming population is so much more diverse. And it’s confining the medium
to a certain type of game that gamers like. Let’s call those real
games, for the moment. The argument that
you always hear is that real gamers play real
games, like “God of War,” “Bayonetta,” or
“Grand Theft Auto.” Hey, I like those games, too. But the problem is that real
games are really just one type. Manifestos abound,
and when a game is released that
doesn’t fit the mold, like “Proteus” or
“Dear Esther,” it gets labeled as not a
game, which is ridiculous. It’s like saying action movies
are the only real movies, and other types
of films that are made for people
with different taste aren’t even worth considering. That’s why I meet so many
people who say, I’m not a gamer, but– then list off
“Angry Birds” or “Madden” or whatever else
they’ve been playing. See the problem? So what if you don’t want
to play a game that involves killing orcs or headshots? Games and gamers should not
be limited to certain types of experiences. So will we ever get
rid of the word gamer? Probably not. But maybe we could
shift the definition. Here’s what I think. If we’re really stuck
with it, the term gamer should be a title
that’s earned by someone with a deep knowledge
of all types of games. Let’s not limit it
to a demographic that only plays real games. Instead, the word gamer could be
like cinephile or bibliophile, someone who’s literate in the
history and variety of a given medium. This kind of gamer would be
well-respected and important, and maybe also a
little pretentious, but I can deal with that. Just like watching “The
Godfather” 100 times doesn’t make you a
cinephile, playing 100 hours of “Call of Duty”
multi player shouldn’t make you a gamer. It just means you’re pretty
good at “Call of Duty.” The word gamer
should be reserved for someone who harbors a deep
interest and understanding of all aspects of
the medium, someone who plays “Battlefield,”
“Agricola,” “Gone Home,” and yes,
even “Candy Crush Saga.” So what do you think? Should we retire the word gamer? Hash it out in the comments,
and if you like what you saw, please subscribe. Also a big thank
you to SplEagles, who inspired this episode. And a reminder for all of you
out there, if there’s anything that you think we should
do an episode about, hit us up on Twitter, Facebook,
or in the Comments section. We’d love to know
what you think. I’ll see you next week. Last week, we talked about
whether fanboys and fangirls are ruining games. Let’s see what you had the say. PoutyWand gives a bit of
rhetoric in the form of, not all fans are fanboys,
but all fanboys are fans. Cellcam makes the
astute observation that social media may
be in part to blame. And I actually agree with you. Twitter is excellent
as a broadcast medium. But one of the things
it doesn’t do very well is to allow people to filter
what they actually see. So it might be a bunch
of individual people who are saying mean
things about you, and they’re only saying it
to like 10 other people. But to you, the recipient,
if feels like everybody in the world is against you. Yeah, so it’s a
really good point. Sometimes the social media
institutions themselves might be to blame
for why developers are feeling under the collar. Colin Knueppel says the
developers are getting better about growing thick skin,
which is interesting. Because I feel like the argument
goes that developers or people do creative stuff
in general have to develop thick skin
to deal with comments, rather than moving the
onus over to people who leave nasty comments,
in the first place, or unreasonable demands. But yes, I do think that
developers are learning how to deal with people
in the community who aren’t so positive. But I wonder,
should they have to? Tanner Carson was a
backer of the Broken Age project, which is awesome. It’s a great thing
to be a backer of and notes that what he
wanted out of this game was a sense of nostalgia. And that’s what he was
buying into, which I don’t think necessarily is a problem. We’ve talked about
nostalgia in the past. But it can hamstring creators in
terms of them feeling obligated that they have to
recreate something that they’ve made in the past. Not that I’m saying
that Broken Age is a re-creation of past things
that Tim Schafer does, only that he’s definitely– he
and others on Kickstarter are certainly feeling pressure
that they need to repeat things that they’ve done before. Dustinalfonso is a big
“Final Fantasy” fan, which is awesome, and
notes that “Final Fantasy” fans, along with other
people, have fallen into the sequelization
problem, which is that there’s one game after
another, and fans feel like they have to keep
buying each one to keep up. Which I do think is a problem. It’s kind of like things
should end on top, right? Not just when they
stop making money. At least that’s what
most creators would like. Anon Non worked on a reboot
of a popular franchise. You should read
the whole comment. But the TLDR version of it is,
worked on a popular reboot. The fans hated it. That forced the publisher
to pull support from it. The game was released
to critical acclaim. FanS still hated it. So yeah, it’s kind
of a cautionary tale. I don’t know what game
that was, but yeah, that sounds like that sucks. bluehornet632 notes
that fanboyism is happening in other
parts of the world and other parts of culture. That’s totally true. But as I note in
the episode, I do think gamers have a special
form of entitlement, in the sense that games
forge a very specific bond between yourself
and the character that you see on the screen. So that gives them additional
leverage or additional, I would say, emotional
leverage, feeling like they’re more connected to it. But yeah, you’re right. I mean, this is a problem
elsewhere, as well. Katana’s Machinima (and other
offenses), first of all, wins the award for
the longest YouTube handle I’ve seen in
the life of this show, but also notes that their
enthusiasm for making games has totally waned, because the
prospect of making something successful and then having death
threats sent to your family is not a particularly appetizing
kind of thing to deal with. To which I would say,
have you considered accounting or baking? Those are less violent. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hey there, newcomers. First of all, welcome. Second of all, as many
of you have noticed, I wear glasses without
any lenses in them. And the reason why is because
I wear the exact same frames, but with lenses. But there’s lots of glare,
so that’s super distracting. So when we’re filming,
voila, no glare, no lenses. So I’m not one of
those people who just like wears glasses without
any lenses in them to be cool, or something that. That’d be pretty dumb. So no need to say anything about
in the comments, hopefully. Anyway, thanks for watching. [BEEP]

100 thoughts on “What is a Gamer? | Game/Show | PBS Digital Studios

  1. Sorry I'm keeping the term Gamer.   I'm fine with it being exclusive.   I've been gaming since '84  It was our thing when I was young.   We had each other,  the freaks and geeks.  We had what was ours,  our scene.   Sci Fi, fantasy, comics, metal and gothic artists.  We were the unwanted outcasts.       

    Now we're all grown up,  established and successful.  Well adjusted adults.     We still game.  We still like RPG's.   We still retro NES,  we have children.    We've watched video games explode into the mainstream.   We've watched countless publishers reach for bigger and more diluted demographics.   Games evolved exponentially in style and substance before this happened.   Now more often than not only indy titles innovate.  Stagnation is everywhere,   a possible video game market crash is looming.   Sinking under a pile of rehash,  achievement grinding,  mass market   "I'm not a gamer" free for all.

    Somewhere back there geek culture got "cool"     Big Bang Theory,  social media,  casual gaming.   Caw'o'doody jock dads,  sudoku moms,   bro-tard Madden fratties and squeaking graphics kiddies.    

    Truth is we don't want you     We never did.     The division will always be there.     

    /disjointed rant.    Hate away kids.  

  2. Generally gam-ER belongs with other "-ers" in its family….. gambl-ER, snowboard-ER, preach-ER,  runn-ER…. all these things generally mean "the person does this thing" but it also relies heavily on general consensus as to what constitutes one. There are some people who preach but arent preachers, some who gamble but arent gamblers…. etc etc… I think how most people feel about gaming is that you need a certain Devotion to gaming to really be called a gamer, some people who incidentally play flappybird or bejeweled during "down time" because their phone happens to play those games… but otherwise wouldn't touch games… is not a gamer… somebody who loves Sports games and specifically bought a console controller and other things to invest some of their free time (not down time) into it as a hobby, is a gamer.

  3. Ok guys, fuck it. Let's just make a new term. Video-Gamer, and unite around that. No, iOS exclusive players, you are not invited unless you man up and start playing on other platforms aswell.

  4. Being a gamer is about playing multiple games, being a hardcore gamer is about playing and understanding the majority of games. A hardcore gamer is someone who has so much time with gaming they can pick up any game and be good at it and with practice great at it. A casual gamer is someone who plays one or two games, regardless of what they are.

    I'd like to make a new classification the overseer gamer; this is someone like a hardcore gamer but they have gone into the history of gaming. Connecting the philosophical nature games produce and critically looking at games. It's someone who knows extensively about interactive entertainment.

    If you know the first game with regenerating health you might be an overseer gamer.

    With moderate debate it's a game called hydlide for the nes in 1984

  5. Oh, you silly people and your "communities" and "belonging" and "actual interpersonal connection". To rally behind the word "gamer" just to enable a network to form around it with so-called "likeminded people" is just one more mistake made by humanity (and its track record isn't looking very good). Can't you see that in order to include you and "your" people, any social construct must also exclude some other people? It is obvious that this only leads to pain, misunderstanding, and yes, even war.

    Now here's what you should do: just walk through life alone. We're all gonna die alone anyway; why fool yourself into thinking life has to be any different? I've been alone as far as I can remember (I distinctly recall being born completely alone) and it is great! I don't exclude some people – I exclude all people! I don't have to deal with the trouble communities bring; I only have to suffer occasional boredom, persistent sense of complete hollowness and recurring depression. But at least I don't hurt anyone! (Except myself. But I'm literally worthless, so that doesn't matter at ALL).

    Kill this "gamer" thing already! You will all be better for it! And completely, utterly alone!

  6. I agree, the term gamer fits better to your last description is someone who loves games and plays a lot of them, is about the variety
    Example: video games journalists, they are gamers.
    Is a full time job, there are more and more games every day, I'm always thinking on playing the next game and I always end up with a huge library full of games I haven't played because I was busy with other things in my life you know, when you are 14 years old you enjoy games a lot but now with 24 years I barely touch games and when I do, I don't enjoy them as much… is so sad.

  7. my freind thinks he is a gamer .but he doesnt understand wat a game is . he plays a game called jimmy shoot , i dont know the hell is that . he doesnt know who is mario at all ! WHAT IS THE SOLLUTION ? is he a gamer or not ?

  8. I betcha those who have problems with Aisha Tyler of being called "a gamer" are young males. So let them create their own group – the young male gamer group. 

  9. A gamer is a person who has integrated gaming as a part of their lifestyle. Whether you're a social gamer a hardcore fps gamer or mmorpg gamer, if you have devoted time, effort, and money into your game/genre then you are a true gamer. And a true gamer is not someone who totally disregards their responsibility for games, but someone who is passionate and proud of their games and stats and setup. Sadly until we as a society can understand this we will still be looked down on by they outside community.

  10. A gamer is someone who games take up a majority of their time and thoughts.

    What I mean with that is that for a gamer games are one of the biggest part of their lifes, a gamer keeps up with upcoming games, keeps up with  game technology and and the hardware behind those games (say a new graphics card for pc gamer and a new console or addon to those consoles for a console gamer)

    Just look at it this way, your a fan of walking dead if you make sure you don't miss out a single episode and watch it the moment it's on tv (or records it if you work or have something else that stops you from watching it right away) and theorize about it, wonders and plays through your head who might die or what might happen in the next episode. Then you have someone (like me) who has watched maybe 3 episodes and liked what you have seen and it seems interesting, but make no attempt to make time to continue watching, doesn't think about it after they are done watching the episode and don't theorize about things after your done watching. Just because you like the thing doesn't make you part of it.

    Think of it this way, if someone has to describe things about you and can list 3 things and gamer or someone that games a lot or likes to play game comes up, then you are probably a gamer, if other things top up the list then you are probably not a gamer and just someone who plays game.

  11. wow really PBS Game/Show? Really?

    You had to bring race into it didn't you, it's bad enough already that some people think that because she is a woman she can't be a gamer, you had to make it racist, there are black guys that play games and I think most people would classify them as gamers if they would call their white counterparts a gamer. I fucking hate when people bring race into the mix when there is zero evidence race has anything to do with the issue AND while there is another MUCH MORE "VALID" reason.. (I put valid in quotation-marks because it's not a valid reason in the general sense, but is a reason some gamers use, so it's valid in that sense)

    The simple reason they felt she wasn't a gamer was because there are stupid gamers out there that think being a woman means you can't be a gamer, DONE plain and simple, no reason to complicate things with bogus race crap.

  12. Hmm I've been playing games since I was like 4 or 5 my first console was nes then snes which I for most of my childhood my favorite games were mega man x, super Mario world, donkey kong country, gradius 3, Aladdin hehe, sunset riders, and contra 3 I played them all very much haha I was only kid on the block still playing snes while everyone else had a ps2 xD then I got a ps1 and my favorite game was legend of dragoon ^3^ and parasite eve and crash and street fighter and haha medal of honor :3/ it was good times on my ps1 then I got gamecube haha super smash brothers melee haha the best game ever:D and true crimes streets of LA and spyro and call of duty finest hour I think that's what it was called residents evil one and then I got a ps2 😀 i literally had no life when I played that I has Resident evil 4 and san Andreas and the suffering and scarface and the warriors and destroy all humans one and two and some other games I don't remember and then I got a Wii but I only played super smash bros brawl on it:3/ and then finally my PS3:D I have many games for it I play them all for hours then I started missing my snes but it didn't work anymore so I bought a retro duo for my snes games and I started playing them all over again and then I switch back to ps3 and then back to gamecube and ps1 so on then I even buy classic games on the play station store haha shit I play alot I have probably like a hundred games at least. :3 hmm I don't know do u guys think I'm a real gamer 😀 I wanna hear ur opinions thanks for reading ^__^

  13. Gamers created their own subculture. Most began in their childhoods. You don't become a metalhead because you sometimes listen to Metalica's song on the radio. You don't become a punk because you accidentially spoiled green paint on your hair.
    A gamer is someone whose main interest is playing video games (sorry tabletop players), who is interested with the industry news, enjoys conversing about games, spends money on systems (so a smartphone does not count, since smartphone has games as an "extra" fuctionality) for games, tried out multiple genres and has developed a taste.
    Anyone who plays a very small variety of games (like only casual titles) is NOT a gamer.. If they claim they are a gamer they are ignorant and do not know the real meaning.

  14. ok awesome. I paused the video at about 5:30 to work out my own thoughts about what the term gamer meant to me and I came to the conclusion that I would either like the term to mean a person who had a knowledge of all types of games and plays some sort of game personally on a regular basis (sorta like a connaisseur of wine would have a working knowledge of all wines although still may prefer one wine over another), or we could just use the term gamer to refer to anyone that plays games, but then I realized that this may not be the best idea because there are a lot of people who play games like solitaire or tetris (like my mom for example) who would never call themselves a "gamer", and if the person themselves doesn`t identify with the term it seems a bit strange to forcefully categorize them as such.

    And now the awesome part. After sorting out my thoughts I hit play again only to have you go on and present nearly the exact same conclusion I had just come to myself. 
    Gotta say, I was pleasantly surprised. 

  15. I consider myself a gamer, as it's my primary source of entertainment. I rarely watch movies and tv shows, I also rarely read books or magazines. I do watch YouTube videos, but I play video games almost everyday and for a couple of hours at a time, without breaks inbetween in each separate play session, as I enjoy the stories within the games I do play (if they have a story).

    In my option, games like Candy Crush, Bubble Witch, Clash Of Clans and similar games are just to past the time and are time fillers until you get of the bus to meet up with friends or go home.

    I play games from survival horror, platformer games, action adventure, puzzle, fighting and that is just naming a few. I disagree that the term has become exclusionary or hostile and that anyone is being kept out of any club. It is a term that doesn't need to be disposed of or be turned into a term to describe a "rain man" of gaming.

    All it comes down to is: Can you handle your own (in any given game)? Yes? Pick up a controller or jump on your keyboard and lets get playing. If you are capable of handling the trash talk that usually comes with competitive online play (all in the attempt to get an edge on your opponents) and are skilled enough in playing the game, you shouldn't have a problem.

  16. I feel like the context is taken out on the story behind the backlash behind Aisha Tyler, was she called "not a 'Gamer'" because she is a "black woman"? I don't think so. It is more likely that people thought she wasn't a Gamer because they felt like she didn't know shit about what she was talking about, though again, not saying she is or isn't, but I feel its a bit of a strawman to say "people thought she isn't a Gamer because she's a black woman"

  17. Sure, why not make it (the title"gamer") so exclusionary that only absolute aficionados are deemed the true gamers! Full disclosure I win ?;=0p)

  18. When I was kicked from the US, my ex kept all of our consoles. Now I only have my laptop, and League Of Legends. League is what I mainly do with my free time – that makes me a gamer, even if I currently only play one game.

  19. Gamers are people who play and judge games. We have favorites and we have strong dislikes on some games. If someone is claiming they are a gamer I wouldn't ask them if they have played a spesific game. I would ask them how many they played and are they playing it because they enjoy it or because they are trying to fit in with the rest of us.All though it's fine to try to fit in but this is like trying to fit in with doctors without going to medical school. Or wanting to be a musician and becoming a movie maker just for the sake of fiting in better.

  20. Gaming has always been part of my life and i could probably come up with several fine tuned but still diverse ways of defining a gamer, that would be my personal opinion of the matter however. A straight up "Gamer" to me would be a person who when asked what their hobbies are and may only name the four most important hobbies would include gaming as one of them. Isn't that reasonable? (And no, I wouldn't call people who play phone-games or Facebook-games "Gamers" but that's just my opinion having grown up with a different kind of games) 

  21. the lighting in these videos is so wierd, it uneases me, its so bright and clear, like all the colors are faded, i wish it had a little bit more colour contrast by changing the lighting a bit.

  22. "Gamer" is a useless term, because it leads to excess arguments, lack of innovation, and disregard for what has been known as games (ie chess, etc…).  That being said, Dear Esther is not a game, although it uses mechanics from games.  I am NOT saying it isn't bad, just it isn't a game.  I do think what a game does matter, and everything shouldn't be lumped together under the banner "game".

  23. For me; a gamer is someone who's passion is gaming, meaning, as you said, the cinephiles of videogames.

    But just as everyone sees movies, everyone can play videogames, but that doesn't make them gamers.

  24. I'm not sure I agree with the suggestion that we should turn the word gamer into a title, but I love the idea that (like music, movies, or books) games are for everyone- it's just a matter of finding the game type that's right for you. Thanks for a great video!

  25. lol … so gamers want to belong to a group of lazy persons who have nothing better to do all day then to slouch behind a PC and do non productive things … like games

  26. i believe the word gamer, is reserved for people who play 14 hours and up, a day

    so yeah the way i see it, if you use over half your day gaming you are a gamer
    and under you are just a casual gamer

    and i also believe that mobile games do not fit in this category

  27. nope the definition must be altert gammers are humans who play anny kind of game zable top ore dnd or pan and paper or video games we must lern that the term gammer is not video game spesific and a game is by definiton if you have a chalange a rewart and can interact 😉  so yes gammer is some one who play anny kind of game 😉

  28. A gamer is like a driver, anyone can be one. We even have Non-gamer gamers, like you, who play games for their characters, the story and sees them as a form of media and art. We have casual gamers how just play games for fun. We have core gamers how are all about game mechanics and hardcore gamers who are all about mastering.

    That doesn't mean you can't play games or talk about games. Those "types" of gamers It's just different ways people see games. But I'm free to say that you don't get games.

    Here is a simple way to see if a game is a real game. Take off the characters, story, art, music, everything except the gameplay and the game mechanics. What you are left with is the real game.

  29. Gamer=ppl who just play much, maybe 70% or more of freetime…. I havent played many games cuz i cant stop playing the ones im playing, that doesnt make me not a gamer…

  30. I think what a "gamer" is is something that will evolve over time. Up until now, it's basically referred to people who's primary source of entertainment was video games, as opposed to music, or movies, or books, or hanging out at the mall with friends. Sure, gamers perhaps did some or all of those things, but they were secondary–like the dedicated audiophile who, sure, plays the occasional video game while hanging out with a friend, but the video games are just a secondary thing they don't really consider to be a part of who they are as a person. It is, as discussed in the video, a kind of social label, especially considering that for a long while, "gamers" were socially stigmatized outside of the company of other gamers. It was a way to bond with people who shared your interests.

    You see a lot of the same controversy over the word "nerd" today. Nerds, historically, were socially ostracized, but banded together and embraced the word as a mark of pride, and feel threatened now that nerdiness is "trendy" and everyone is claiming to be one, diluting the identities of those for whom "nerd" has essentially become part of the foundation of who they are as a person.

    It's going to be a bumpy road forward, to be sure, but it's essentially just… part of the growing up process of a new medium. As games become more universally accepted as an artform, "gamer" will eventually take on the connotations of terms like "film buff"–not just anyone who plays games, but someone who is deeply passionate about games, generally to the exclusion of most other forms of entertainment. The gamer will be the person their casual-video-game-playing friends will turn to for suggestions of new games to try, or the person they know has probably played the game they just enjoyed and will be able to discuss it with them at length, providing insight because the gamer will have a deeper understanding of the inspirations and contexts that influenced the game's creation.

  31. for me a Gamer is someone who puts Gaming before almost everything else.
    for example: I will blow off walking my dog to play games, blow off watching tv for games, blow off irl friends for games, etc etc. (however i would recommend still having friends and people that care about you be in your life)

  32. Speaking of girls not playing games. Why is it that so many women play warframe? I really don't understand it. I mean I know women play games but usually not many, and usually not bloody gore aliens that can sometimes look like roaches. But like 40% of warframe players seem to be women!

  33. I would define a gamer as "Someone who plays games on Xbox, Playstation, A Nintendo device or on PC using Steam, Uplay or Origin".

    Pretty much everyone who has a phone would have played Flappy Birds. That doesn't exactly make people a gamer and it could lead to most of the world being considered a gamer. Phones and free in-browser flash games should not classify you as a gamer.

  34. I'm liking the openness you've got going at the end of your videos.. what with responding to comments etc even clearing up the glasses thing without getting uppity about it. Whilst I don't agree with your more political/ethical takes on gaming, everything else seems totally honest and neutral. Kudos.

    Calling me a 'GAMER', will put your life AT VERY SERIOUS RISK. I'm mean, a visit to an emergency room, to have a controller removed from your 'oral' cavity.

    I have enough problems trying to deal with the developer's abusive, sadistic, design.

  36. I've identified as a "gamer" for years now, and to me it means, "someone who enjoys and frequently plays videogames."  That's it.  That's what it always meant to me.  I've never felt a need to draw lines in the sand over who the "true" gamers are, and I find the concept ridiculous.  You like videogames?  In my book, that makes you a gamer.  I think it's unfortunate that the term has developed negative connotations, and that people would want to retire it.

  37. Given that I don't fit in the common definition of gamer (female, play on easy, don't often play FPS games or other big actiony AAA games) I've always tended towards the definition you suggest (with a different bent). I choose to think of a gamer as a foodie – someone who is enthusiastic about games. I have friends that play plenty of guitar hero, mario kart, mobile games and even some other types of experiences but they don't really like to engage with gaming. People who like to talk about games, think about games. People who watch videos visit websites, make art about games. Those are who I think are gamers. People with an interest in the medium outside of filling time – even if they only move outside the 'time filling' aspect occasionally. This way it's not about the type of person you are or what you like. It's about the love of the medium itself. The only main difference I see between my idea and the one you described is you require a breadth of knowledge. Some of us are still working on that.

    For example, I love games but I didn't know much about an arguable classic, Halo, until a few months ago. But in my enthusiasm about games I stumbled onto a let's play of the first Halo and got totally sucked into the lore and level design, even if the gameplay still doesn't seem like my thing. I still know very little about RTS games, or Dark Souls (and similar). But I'm sure my natural enthusiam for the medium will lead me towards them eventually. And if it doesn't, I am still really excited to talk to you about a bunch of other games. So take is as a very subjective critique of the one you proposed. Either way.. the term as it is is pretty limiting and I wish it didn't really exist. I just like games. You may or may not. No big deal.

  38. I think a gamer is someone who cannot live without a video game to play on either their smart phone, portable console or a home console, on their day to day life. and no matter the game nor difficulty they would play it no matter what… because they are gamers… does that makes sense?

  39. If u ask me, a gamer is someone who plays video games on console or Steam more than 3 days a week. Casual Games, mobile and Facebook games doesn't count of one just plays those, but if that person also plays videogames that are not Casual, mobile or Facebook games, they count as a gamer.

    Board games don't count either.

  40. Dear Ester, ksp, BF4, every Simulator, kinect sport these are all games and when you play them (not just once but when you do it in some kind of semi regular or regular schedule) then you are a gamer.
    candy crush, angry birds etc. are mostly just time wasting machines. Also, I don't want that you can become a gamer if you play Rollercoaster tycoon mobile or clash of clans. These games are just cheap cash grabs and I just don't want it to be a thing in games like Halo 5.
    Say no to micro transaction which helps you in the game (skin packs etc. are ok)

  41. the definition at the beginning of the episode(0.39) clearly states : a person who plays a game or games, TYPICALLY(not always) a participant in a computer(consoles included here) or role playing game.
    so anyone who plays monopoly board game..nes..atari 2600..pc..mac..android..etc is a gamer. it did not single out rpg or pc games.
    i have been playing video games since coleco telstar/atari pong in 1976 lol
    i play all types of games…and love playing online..you meet nice people all over the world. KEEP ON GAMING!!

  42. 2D games & Candy crush players =/= CoD, Halo, AC, MGS, GoW, Tom Clancy players.
    That's why we need the term "gamer", so we know who we're talking about and dealing with.

  43. Can it not be someone with an interest in games? Perhaps one change to the word "gamer" that may be helpful is to use more descriptive terms such as video gamer or PC gamer. While I respect people that play board games and other types of non-electronic games, I do think that it is correct to not identify this group as gamers. Why? Because if the term gamer is to maintain significance it must refer to some people and not others. It is like saying everyone is special. When special is used this way it looses all meaning. Everyone has played some type of game in their life, and everyone has a favorite game, but not everyone is a gamer.

  44. What the f… is the problem with this non issue.
    Everybody should play games, watch films, listen music, cook , drive, etc! That's cool.

    Now, everybody has to be "a gamer" "a film junkie" "an audiophile" "a cook", etc? No, of course not!
    I bough a car, I drive it, I kinda know the basics, I like it… but I don't care about cars, engines, etc? I'm not a "car person" nor I want to be one, It's fine to know that there are people who talk and know about brands, pistons and engines but I'm not one of them and I don't really care.

  45. So far I understand that a gamer is someone who plays a long time or plays any kind of certain games. Hmm, so do gamers choose what type of game they want? Like say that a gamer became a youtuber and are getting comments to play a game you don't know or that you dont love, will they do it anyway? Will youtube gamers still play that certain game they asked? (I'm sorry but I'm confused and I'm trying my best to make my channel to turn out entertaining, helpful, funny, and friendly.)

  46. I think the defensiveness of people when it comes to the word "gamer" is one of those "we used to be ostracized, it's OUR word" sort of thing. Since let's face it, at a point in time, the general consensus was that only geeks and nerds play games, those who have "no other life".
    But now that gaming's started to become more mainstream, suddenly it gets to those who were ostracized for playing games fora long time.

  47. I feel like a "gamer" is someone who likes to play video games…. people are so weird about the whole subject like for instance, I've played games my whole life and continue to do so but if someone who just started gaming wanted to refer themselves as a gamer I would be like yeah let's party up! lol

  48. Gamer:
    First and foremost, a Gamer is someone who identifies as a Gamer. A gamer is someone, one who tends to play a lot of games, or enjoy talking about games, or consuming games related media including but not limited to game reviews, walkthroughs, let's plays, machinima, game analyses, or various satirical games related media.

    If someone claims to be a Movie Buff, and doesn't know what Pulp Fiction or Citizen Kane are, they deserve to get some flack for that. They're just trying to look cool, and that's pathetic.

  49. nope becuse of my name i am playing cod games for 5 yrs now but gamer woord should not be over reacted with

  50. I don't really agree with what you said. A gamer is a person who plays games or a certain game with an amount more than what most people play. Someone who plays Candy Crush shouldn't be called a gamer, but if he plays this game frequently and reaches a very high level then maybe he could be a gamer. People who play Apps are not really gamers. I personally see gamers as those who play games on their PC or game consoles. Gamers don't just play a game a few times and then leave. No, they become obsessed with it.


    a fine example, elders from last generation certainly DON'T play games at all whatsoever, and unfortunately have no desire to get into it ;(. Then there's also ppl who came from third world countries or poor families who might not play games at all.





  53. Great video!

    I think this discussion of what a "gamer" is, is similar to the heated discussion of what an "rpg" is. An rpg predates video games and was used in reference to tabletop games, such as D&D. Over time the word has become diluted and piecemealed out to be a blanket term for a wide variety of games.

    I can't speak to who first coined the term "gamer", but I'm certain it dates to the early video game era, and as time has passed, video games have become so widespread and varied that the term has become a blanket term.

    The issue with blanket terms is that they too broad at a point, to define anything specific which is where derivatives come into play, such as hardcore gamer, casual gamer, etc. All the while, groups still want to latch onto the meta term and use it as their archetype. From this comes the debate of what a true "gamer" or "rpg" or etc. is.

    In conclusion, derivatives are useful terms. I drive a car doesn't tell you much. If I say, I drive a sports car, or minivan, or SUV, or convertible, etc. you now have a better idea of what I mean. No one argues that a convertible is the REAL car. They are so varied now, that it's an excepted blanket term that gives us a baseline to extend from to be more specific. This standard should apply to "gamer", but I don't think the debate will end anytime soon.

  54. A lot of people in my country always say that they are are gaming buy just playing rule of survival. They never play game before and they don't even know is CJ is. I am really hard to listen the word "gamer" everday.

  55. For me, I will say every can be a gamer, but it has to be by playing console or pc
    Games, mobile games don’t count…

  56. For me, a gamer means to make money by playing video games. People who stream , even if they are not pro players, they still make money. It doesn't matter what platform they choose, aslong as they earn a living and not waste electricity 😉

  57. i think you are a gamer if you spend more time then average playing videogames, i dont think someone who plays angry birds should call themselves gamers

  58. I played games for SNES, PS1 PS2, PSP, NDS, GBA and PC
    I player FPS, Survival-horror, JRPG, ARPG, MMORPG, TCG, Action-adventure, 2D and 3D Platformer, Racing, Hack n Slash, RTS, Fighting, Puzzle, Visual Novel, Simulator and Shooter

    What kind of gamer am i?

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